{"id":22865,"date":"2008-11-03T00:03:00","date_gmt":"2008-11-03T00:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/blog\/?p=445"},"modified":"2008-11-03T00:03:00","modified_gmt":"2008-11-03T00:03:00","slug":"la-banca-rota","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/la-banca-rota\/","title":{"rendered":"The Broken Bank."},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 164px; height: 297px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/marc-726038.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/>A spectacular article by Investorsconundrum: <a href=\"http:\/\/investorsconundrum.com\/2008\/10\/29\/cuanto-vale-un-banco-hoy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00abHow much is a bank worth today?\u00bb.<\/a> I think it\u2019s worth mentioning, by way of <a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Meme\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">memes<\/a>, all of us who work in this field and write about it should give some thought to the possibility that the global financial solution may lie in minimising the stock market value of banks. The dichotomy between a capital increase and the state plugging financial holes could be the difference between a fall in value for shareholders or for depositors (customers). But beyond this dichotomy of future solutions\u2014whether viable or not\u2014let us reflect on some factors affecting the valuation of banks in the current situation.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">The first thing I\u2019d like to do is congratulate <a href=\"http:\/\/investorsconundrum.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Marc Garrigasait<\/a> for daring to write an article like this. For being radically consistent with a line of reasoning in which he firmly believes (so much so that he has written off his exposure to <a href=\"http:\/\/investorsconundrum.com\/tag\/koala-capital\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Koala Capital SICAV<\/a> (in banks). Hats off to them, whether you agree or not.<\/p>\n<p>I hope that, following on from Marc\u2019s post and this or other memes, various bloggers will also share their views and discuss the future value of banks and their impact on the crisis. Some have already done so brilliantly, such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gurusblog.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gurusblog<\/a>. And it would also be very interesting if <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/echevarri\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Echevarri<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marcvidal.cat\/espanol\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Marc Vidal<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/fernan2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fernan2<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/futurfinances.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">FuturFinances<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.unience.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Unience<\/a>\u2026 (to name but a few who are still active), and a long list of other illustrious figures, both well-known and lesser-known, did the same. Now let\u2019s get on with our thoughts on the matter:<\/p>\n<p>If banks are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them, then clearly they are not worth zero today. <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Obvious, yet unsettling<\/span>. The market \u2013 that is to say, we \u2013 generally cannot, at present, conceive of a world without banks unless we make the (futile) effort to imagine how our great-grandfathers lived when they were courting our great-grandmothers. And that very difficulty in imagining a world without banks already increases their value, whether calculated on an accounting or fundamental basis. We are prepared to pay more for them than they deserve because of our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/fernan2\/2007\/06\/el-efecto-anclaje-y-el-subconsciente.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">anchor<\/a> in a multi-generational system that is inconceivable without the banking sector. Is the value we mentally ascribe to it irrational, or is it irrational to think that its real value is zero?<\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/brick_bank_lg-771068.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 605px; height: 372px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/brick_bank_lg-771019.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>We can also attribute a different kind of value to them. For example, the fact that <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">always<\/span> have managed to reinvent their business for as long as anyone can remember (with banks, of course). This argument is literally priceless. To explain what I mean more clearly, let\u2019s watch an extract from the following video: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0107290\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jurassic Park<\/a> in which, even though rationally speaking the chances of the dinosaurs reproducing uncontrollably within the park\u2019s controlled environment were nil, as the mathematician played by Jeff Goldblum says: <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">\u00abLife finds a way\u00bb<\/span>. In this case, we could say that ever since the financial system as we know it came into existence, and despite the various difficulties, \u00abthe banking sector has managed to forge ahead\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><div class=\"connecta-video-container\" style=\"margin: 2em 0;\"><iframe title=\"Life will find a way\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/02xLOiwsytc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div><\/p>\n<p>For various reasons that are probably beyond our understanding today, traditional banking will be restructured in such a way that it manages to endure over time as a strategic and dominant sector. Therefore, if we agree on this, that resilience \u2013 or ability to rise from the ashes like the <a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ave_F%C3%A9nix\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Phoenix,<\/a> has an intrinsic value that may keep bank share prices above reasonable levels in the near future.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-style: italic;\"><p>\u00abWhen the time came for him to die, he would\u2026\u2019 <a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nido\" title=\"Nest\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">nest<\/a> spices and aromatic herbs, he added just one <a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Huevo_%28biolog%C3%ADa%29\" title=\"Egg (biology)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">egg<\/a>, which it incubated for three days, and on the third day it burst into flames. The Phoenix was completely consumed by the fire and, as it turned to ashes, the same Phoenix\u2014always unique and eternal\u2014emerged from the egg. This happened every five hundred years.\u00bb<\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/ave-fenix-733873.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 567px; height: 223px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/ave-fenix-733869.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> It seems quite reasonable to me that the near-total collapse in the value of bank shares could be a solution for absorbing the global shortfall over time. But it is not the only solution, and perhaps not the least traumatic one either. That is another possible reason why they might remain significantly above zero. We do not need banks to fall to zero or near-zero value whilst governments \u2013 that is, all of us \u2013 retain a certain capacity to absorb shocks, deficits and toxic assets, or simply the ability to postpone the problem through inflation (<a style=\"font-weight: bold;\" href=\"http:\/\/freshfamilyoffice.blogspot.com\/2008\/09\/rescue-me.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rescue Me<\/a>) and \u00abcredit revival\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/mortgage-default-lk0715d-762010.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 583px; height: 254px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/mortgage-default-lk0715d-762005.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>Not only is that scenario unnecessary, but our view of the banking sector is not objective. In other words, most of us are directly or indirectly involved in banks\u2019 balance sheets, either through assets or liabilities. Our assets are their assets, and will remain so for at least a generation. The credit excesses that caused the bubble \u2013 which in turn have led us to consider whether the value of banks should approach zero \u2013 have left us up to our necks in debt to them, and it could not be otherwise. We can therefore hardly have the objectivity to value them that we might have with any other listed asset, such as a factory (<a href=\"http:\/\/es.finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=ko&amp;m=MC&amp;d=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">KO<\/a> o <a href=\"http:\/\/es.finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=aapl&amp;m=MC&amp;d=\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AAPL<\/a>) or a distribution company (<a href=\"http:\/\/es.finance.yahoo.com\/q?s=WMT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WMT<\/a>). With these companies, we can indeed aim to determine their intrinsic, fundamental value and compare it with the value currently assigned to them by the market. And even then, only the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ideasenmarcha.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Fotos\/Warren_Buffet_presidente_Berkshire_Hathaway.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">privileged<\/a> They make money from it on a sustained basis. In contrast, our money, most of our property and our hopes and dreams depend on the banks. And that could well be worth a subjective overvaluation, whether conscious or unconscious. At this point, we are reminded once again that: <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">If banks are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them, then clearly they are not worth zero today. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;\">Obvious, yet unsettling<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/Coca-Cola-%28195%29-787910.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 596px; height: 291px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/Coca-Cola-%28195%29-787865.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>Another possible reason why banks retain a value higher than they might rationally deserve is the fact that they deal in something that the whole of the First and Second Worlds need: <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Money<\/span>. Let\u2019s say they sell, market and \u2013 I would say \u2013 often traffic in an item whose market share is 100% across the entire planet, with the exception of the Third World, where hunger and destitution shamefully take the place of money. Only in that extreme case of poverty are the inhabitants not potential customers of the banking sector. The rest of the world certainly are, without exception. And we become even more dependent the more wealth we create, whether it be <a style=\"font-weight: bold;\" href=\"http:\/\/freshfamilyoffice.blogspot.com\/2008\/05\/back-to-future-paradoja-del-tiempo-y.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">virtual <\/a>or real. That, then, together with the other arguments we have mentioned in this article, is the <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">goodwill<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"> by far the largest on the planet<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">(\u00aba set of intangible or non-material elements of a business that represent value to it\u00bb).<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/thriller25-713974.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 238px; height: 139px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/thriller25-713969.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>Furthermore, the political decision for us all to work together to revive the financial institutions that are already wandering the globe looking like zombies in the truest sense of the word <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=sF7RbA7HmgA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Thriller<\/span><\/a>, is taken. The damage caused by  the death of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lehman.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lehman Brothers<\/a> was the catalyst for a firm, global political decision: <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">Never Again<\/span>. Without that political decision, the price set by the banks \u2013 by all of them \u2013 would probably be no more and no less than that of LEH, which, in peacetime <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">no <\/span>Take a breather. That\u2019s half a dozen $ cents per share. The difference between its share price and that of the other banks should not be sought so much in their balance sheets \u2013 all of which are infected by the same virus \u2013 but rather in political decisions and arguments such as those we are setting out in this post. Intangible, abstract, irrational arguments that are difficult to grasp\u2026 call them what you will, but their effects are evident to this day. Would it not be reckless to ignore factors such as those mentioned when assessing how much a bank is likely to be worth in the near future?<\/p>\n<p><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/northern-rock460-709405.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 587px; height: 283px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/northern-rock460-709316.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>It is also worth noting that all these considerations are based on a scenario without panic; for if panic were to set in, bankruptcy would set in even before share prices had time to hit rock bottom in their free fall.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/1_banco-702401.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 594px; height: 300px;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/uploaded_images\/1_banco-702397.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a>Perhaps we simply need to give it time to see the banking sector\u2019s market capitalisation drop to zero, and to regret not having been able to capitalise on the opportunities that would have arisen had we analysed events rigorously, as Investorsconundrum does. But if we accept that <a style=\"font-weight: bold;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rankia.com\/blog\/familyoffice\/2007\/07\/la-economa-mundial-y-la-la-teora-del.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The current situation is more chaotic than it was a year and a half ago<\/a>, all these arguments \u2013 which are difficult to assess \u2013 must be given greater prominence in our feeble and endemic attempts to predict the future. My first instinct is to agree with you, Marc. But if we are to write, reflect and offer our readers something more, I believe we must not underestimate the arguments mentioned.<\/div>\n<p>Congratulations, Marc, on your courage. It\u2019s clear that you\u2019ve made us think and write about something that many of us had <a style=\"font-weight: bold;\" href=\"http:\/\/freshfamilyoffice.blogspot.com\/2008\/10\/show-me-money.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">vetoed on grounds of liability<\/a> in the subconscious. That\u2019s all I have to say. Now it\u2019s over to you to decide and have your say.<\/p>\n<blockquote style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><p>Do your best to keep up appearances, and the world will give you the benefit of the doubt on everything else.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Churchill\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\">Winston Churchill (1874\u20131965)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Espectacular el art\u00edculo de Investorsconundrum: \u00abCu\u00e1nto vale un banco hoy\u00bb. Creo que merce que, a modo de memes, todos los que nos dedicamos a esto y escribimos, le demos unas vueltas a la posibilidad de que la soluci\u00f3n financiera global pase por minimizar el valor de los bancos en bolsa. La dicotom\u00eda entre ampliaci\u00f3n de [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22865","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sin-categorizar"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22865","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22865"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22865\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22865"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22865"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/clusterfamilyoffice.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22865"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}